"It was very dusty.. the sweat dripping of the end of your nose by time you were half way through, then when you were coming home you didn't have energy to have a wash properly.."
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"You need to work continuously to keep your messages at the top of your suppliers' minds."
As one conference participant said: "People think that because they might have to spend £200 on a Goretex jacket the industry must be swimming with money. That's just not the case. In many cases we're talking about lifestyle businesses that are operating on a survival basis."
For many companies - perhaps smaller ones, or those who are just starting out in ethical trade - the ideal of full integration between ethics and core business practices may seem overwhelming. Here are a few tips to get you started.
"Our members are really pleased they're going to be getting behind a big piece of work".
"Sunita told me that she works with three or four other women, clearing about 40 tonnes a day of waste stone rubble between them by hand and on their heads."
Julia works on raising awareness about ethical trade and developing to tools to communicate about ethical trade to retailers, suppliers and consumers.
"I do the easy bit", she says. "Getting the message across about how important ethical trade is may be challenging sometimes, but I don't have to make tough decisions on how to respond if I find my company has been sourcing from a factory using child labour, or on how to balance ethical and commercial demands in today's recession-struck times."